Evolution Vs Intelligent Design Talk/Debate

[abdulalim]

Salaam
This thread will be for discussion and planning for the Evolution Talk/Debate which Br Abir and Br Saffaan have taken charge of. Now these are the pointers that need to be sorted out for the event, so please do have a look and post up ur ideas and comments and also anything that you may be able to sort out from here please do post up:

• The date and Venue for this event have been provisionally confirmed as the room booking for them came through, with this being 12th of February 2008, which will be the 199th birthday of Charles Darwin himself! The venue Booked is the Darwin lecture theatre in the Darwin building, which is a modern block built on the exact site of Macaw Cottage, Darwin's London home! The only downside at the moment with the booking is that, we could only book it from 3pm-6pm as been booked from 6pm-9pm by an external organisation (by a church of England person) and therefore as it has been paid by them we cant ask them to move the time a bit the room bookings have told us. So now the event is provisionally going to start from 4pm-6pm unless someone thinks that wont work and we should do something else, and if so please do post up.

• The main thing now we NEED is a COMPETENT SPEAKER who is well versed in science and can be good enough for the debate, we have discussed about bring harun yahya team, and i am in the process of obtaining some contact details for them. but not sure how we can afford them, as apparently if they are not in the UK out of coincidence of the time for the event, then we have to pay £1000 for them due to their travel costs to come from turkey and accommodation. BUT if anyone knows anyone who will be Competent for this talk/debate, please do Post up ASAP, or let me know through [e-mail]

• What ideas you all have of improving the event

• What the coordinators want people to help out with

• Also start thinking of names for the event and perhaps brief description so that we can get the promotion material sorted out for the events

So everyone start posting and putting up ur ideas and the progress with the above points and any more that may be required
Wassalaam
AbdulAlim

[mrakhtar]

Salaam

I spoke to my brother, he said the harun yahya people are amazing, and he even posted up on the ulu isoc forums...let me paste what he said:

'They were brilliant but they will annoy the evolutionist because frankly depsite their degrees and so-called professional status, the doctors from harun yahya just busted them. They were too good! Excellent talk but it might rub a lot of professors up the wrong way, especially in a secular a university'

Anyway, the same harun yahya professors came to kings too and gave a talk there..and I hear that they are actually planned to come down to the UK again this February! Which is when our talk is scheduled, so who knows we might not need to pay much for them to come down to UCL at all!

I think we should approach the Union and talk to them with regards to what they think about our idea about an event like this, and the publicity it might attract...all we want is the right to inform people of the faults that might exist in darwins theory, and how we would interpret them to be an indication to intelligent design...obviously we are entitled to our own opinion, and so is everyone else, and rightfully so we are allowed to question theories and criticise or even support them..we are at university after all!!! If these kind of discussions werent allowed in universities where else then??

So I dont see why it should be a problem of having this event, and I think we should just try seek backing ASAP, and confirm speakers ofcourse asap..

Have saffan and Abir be informed of this thread? I suggest someone else, maybe shakib or someone else be informed to assist as well, as Abir is currently on hajj and will be away for a month which leaves a significant amount of the planning down to us till he comes back...

So lets get things moving ppl!!
ws