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Post by NMA on Jul 17, 2005 22:55:05 GMT
AA,
something else that was takled about a whille ago for the website is an 'introduction to islam' section.
Some ppl suggest we just borrow other peoples stuff for this. I am personally a bit against borrowing other peoples stuff.
but then, at present, we are not really able to explain the finer points of the religion, at least we have no qualified scholars.
I propose we go along the lines of a (brief) intro, the content of which we write ourselves. then include links to other resources. I think we should all be able to discuss atleast the basics of what we believe, so it should not be too difficult to do. Also, if we make it personal, it has might have a better effect than a cold hard clinical approach, also any errors that are made are clearly our perspective only.
And no doubt someone will quickly point them out.
Well, what do you think? it means more content writing, but so long as it's constructed in an expandable way (like the rest of the site has to be) it shouldn't be a problem.
wasalaam
NMA
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Post by Ahmir on Jul 19, 2005 8:25:16 GMT
AA NMA,
I think that a brief introduction to Islam is a good idea and should certainly be included in the website. We can then link to any good sites or provide details for those interested to find out more from books etc.
Also, I'm currently working on the updating the site with all of the freshers content. I'm hoping to have this completed by tonight (Tues) and at the latest Wed. If there are any guidelines/advice etc. please let me know on this forum.
Finally, have you been able to get access to the site FTP?
AA
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Post by Ahmir on Jul 19, 2005 16:52:44 GMT
AA Everyone, The website is being updated at the moment and it would be extremely helpful if you could have a look at the updated site as it is now so that you can comment and suggest improvements. Also, if you are organising events for the coming academic year then the details will need to be ready for the site as soon as possible. You will find that many sections are incomplete, but these will be filled before the freshers arrive and should be ready for September. Also, much of the content from the existing site has been used for now, but this will be reviewed later - after the incomplete sections are ready (Life, Academia, Hospitals). The updated version will not replace the existing version until all parts are ready to view. If you have content that you feel would be suitable for any section of the site then please post it on the forums. The new site is temporarily at: www.rums-isoc.uclu.org/newI would appreciate it if you could post any comments in this thread by Friday. Ahmir
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Post by Haseeb on Jul 19, 2005 17:42:03 GMT
Sallams I think the different sections on the website are good, but i would advise adding the following: -A section with Islamic articles and essays covering a broad range of Islamic topics -A multimedia section (with talks,lectures,quran recitation etc) I was also getting some views from other members of RUMS Isoc, and we were thinking that the design for the website should be changed. Currently, the website has dark colours, changing these colours and sticking with a two colour theme would be a good idea (e.g. blue and white). Just some suggestions. Take a look at www.union.ic.ac.uk/scc/islamic ,you'll be amazed at the websites offered by other Isocs. Wasalam Haseeb
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Post by Ahmir on Jul 19, 2005 22:30:47 GMT
AA Haseeb, Thanks for your suggestions - I will take these on board and continue to change and try to improve on our existing site for September. I have made the colours on the site lighter now but these can be changed quite easily if they need to be changed again thats not a problem. A section about Islam will definitely be added and a multimedia part could be incorporated into this. If there are any other ideas or comments (good or bad) that you would like to make please keep posting them on the forums. Ahmir www.rums-isoc.uclu.org/new
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Post by WiseOldMan on Jul 26, 2005 11:12:41 GMT
AA, site look snice, coming along nicely... I look forward to a finished version, something certain other webmasters havn't managed in the past! (You know who I mean ;P). Just one comment for now: it's erm, a bit green, isn't it? and I think it suffers from the same problems as previous sites... a lack of content! but I get the feeling you know that already I'll keep checking back...keep it coming! wasalaam WiseOldMan
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Post by Ahmir on Aug 21, 2005 10:11:46 GMT
AA NMA,
I am pleased to say I'm back from my trip and am ready to make progress on the website.
I think it would be helpful to talk again about the development of the website in terms of content and style before I take more control of the site.
Also, has a meeting been arranged before the beginning of term - so that everyone knows whats happening and how far everyone has got (or is this going to be done through the forums?)
Ahmir
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Post by mrakhtar on Aug 23, 2005 12:03:26 GMT
i agree with Ahmir,, i definetly think we DO need atleast 1 meeting before the beginning of term, so all of us can catch up on what progress we have made over the summer, and what is lef to be done...
I got your photo Ahmir, thanks, and ive included it in the handbook... the handbook by the way guys is nearly done...all that is left is the sponsers adverts if we are including any, and the money to print themmm
About the website Ahmir, my own personal views are, but im sure others views might differ, is that the lay out, the design and the basic colour scheme could be made a bit more attractive or appealing....
I have got a few ideas in mind, and i think i have the perfect background for the website as well...perhaps ill show u wen we meet up later on inshallah? anyway take care,and hope all of u are in good health
wasalaam
Rashid
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Post by WiseOldMan on Aug 23, 2005 12:08:30 GMT
AA, quick website comment. I know this is a slow connection, but it takes time to load. don't over do it. (14kbps connections DO still exist, even if they only on the edge of nowhere) wslm WiseOldMan (I was gonna sign it 'WOM ', then i realised it just didn't look good.
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Post by WiseOldMan on Aug 23, 2005 12:19:29 GMT
Have the meeting. have it soon. Mr President?
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Post by NMA on Sept 3, 2005 16:40:41 GMT
AA, Ahmir, with regards to what needs to be done on the site, I would recommend filling it in before rebuilding it. Other things you might want to be thinking about is managing the email accounts, which need some sorting out. When we have some confirmed freshers events, a freshers page might also be helpful, however rather than building a complete thing, use one fo the templates, add a small intro and links to other parts of the site related to freshers. Once we have something in the 'Islam' section, or even sooner, change the add to a freshers clcik here sort of thing. I'll probably do some of that myself overnight, if i can. The welcome statement still reads from imran... chase the new pres for a new statement. I have gotten us the email addy rums-isoc@ucl.ac.uk need to sort out the emails so more people can check the ucl account, also can email relavent ppl. have you done any thinking on this? Also, for freshers fayre, you might wanna consider a laptop, so ppl can enter their details directly, rather than someone having to type them up over night... also fewer mistakes that way. In which case you need to design the data entry page, sdecide if you will simply list or construct a database to control the data. Perhaps using a database with year of entry will allow us to generate more appropriate lists for, e.g. pre clinical students? or maybe we shoudl just make a list for each year, and then copy from the relavent list? just a few things to think about. And learn how this board works - try to find decent hacks etc to improve it - or learn a bit of php or sql and make a better one. I quite like invision power boards myself, you might have your own personal favourites- lets see if we can get one of those, although they tend to cost.. still i think the front end looks nicer. This board looks prety naf, but may be fixable with some decent hacks. Oh, and introduce yourself in the 'intros' bit. ws NMA
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Post by Ahmir on Sept 5, 2005 12:43:16 GMT
AA NMA,
I have just returned from a second trip, so apologise for the delay in replying. I am now ready to add to and develop the current site. I have read your comments and will look for alternatives for the current forum first - there are a few problems with this one.
I will be in contact soon, AA
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Post by NMA on Sept 5, 2005 15:22:03 GMT
Ahmir- check the support section fo rthis forum too... it has the advantages of being free. and there are loads of custom hacks to fix most fo the problems. if you do find a new one though, I recommend finding one that allows you to export the titles of most recent posts to the website, so they can go on the front page... i think invision does, and custom php ones do. for some reson, this one won't...
NMA
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Post by Ahmir on Sept 9, 2005 10:38:14 GMT
AA NMA,
I have had a look at the email accounts and as there are 100s of emails would you like me to go through them and delete any that are of no use. Why do we need a Yahoo AND UCL email account?
In terms of e-mailing, I think there should be two lists - one for Phase 1 and another for Phases 2&3. This way, the BSc students are all incorporated into Phases 2&3.
I have contacted Shayan with regards to his statement and am awaiting a reply.
You said that you might do some of the freshers page and the Islam page over night in a previous post - so if you have please let me know.
Ahmir
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Post by NMA on Sept 13, 2005 9:13:29 GMT
AA, I think the accounts havegenerally been poorly kept by me... certainly, i just let things build up. In the ucl account, I have recently created folders for different depts, but nothing is sorted out. Also, some nice spam filter settings would be handy. i know these don't take long to do, and now it's a bigger job to sort through the good from the bad, but unfortunately when they were set up, i didn't have the chance to do it, and now things have built up. Why have the ucl and Yahoo accounts? erm, remember me saying to have a backup to everything? The ucl account is nicer, as we can send to more addys at once, however, it doe shave to be functional for that to happen. The yahoo one is more reliable. Also, the yahoo account recieves UCL ISoc shurah group emails, as in the past they were against the idea ofthe RUMS president/ exec knowing what was going on or having any say in their management. In other words, they never added Imran to their group, and seemed to prefer less rather than more input from us. Things have now changed. I recommend keeping the yahoo account... if you read through the emails recieved, you will see that some people prefer to contact us via yahoo than ucl, for whatever reasons, whilst most people simply send to both. The difficulty with a two list plan is that after a year you have to divide the pre clin list again, to separate out those who are then moving into clinics. The best way to get around this is to have a list for each year group, and simply generate the combined lists for them, but that way they are still accessible. Also, i think it was demonstrated quite nicely last year that bsc students are closer to pre clinical than clinical students. However, it's nice for them to be alble to keep in touch with their year group. Also, over the past few months things have been really quiet, and it's just something to think about, but at times like this it is better notto separate who recieves mail. lastly, consider what group you would put all the others in- doctors, nurses, etc. I think they would stay with the clinical students. Freshers page is easy but needs content... then all you have to do is incorporate the links to the relevent bits of the site. Need to chase people for adverts for the forums/ website/ college... they seem to think that you will simply do it for them. ws NMA
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